Sunday, May 29, 2016

Dear Mr Steve Shaw... (SE23dotcom)

Please let me start out by saying this is a purely personal opinion, of which I have formed over many years of experience with you and your local forum. This is not encouraged, nor representative of the opinions of another local forum which I am now helping on.

For many years now you have been obstructive in the way you have managed and administrated your forum. Editing, deleting, and splitting posts, leaving people confused as to why their voice was suddenly lost. For those of us who have endured this, but still tried to engage with our local community, we have become accustomed to the preferential treatment of some uses, usually those who are in line with your own point of view, both politically and morally.

However there comes a time when enough is enough. And that time is now.
When others have in the past tried to set up a local forum of their own, they have failed time and time again. Bombarded with spam, pornographic posts (which strangely stopped when you were out rightly accused of being behind them, and many other underhand and quite frankly childish and malicious attacks.

In recent instances it would be fair to nickname you Steve "Sockpuppet" Shaw, as it seems when there is dirty work to be done, another user pops up on your forum, is quite openly allowed to start posting inflammatory remarks about local businesses you don't personally like, and be left to get away with it. While anyone defending the business or person is allowed to be attacked or questioned.
THEN Mr Shaw, YOU block the user you don't like. Just as you have just done to my account. Using your sockpuppet account to question me, then block me so it looks like I have no answer to your spineless accusations.

If you can't see how pathetic your actions are, then you probably won't understand a word of what I am writing here.

Obviously there are other actions you have carried out recently too, some legit, others somewhat desperate. Renaming posts "Life in SE23" with no doubt the intention of creating a little more traffic for the ever fading forum. While there is nothing wrong with that, hey we all need to ride other peoples coat tails of success from time to time, it does show you are actively aware and engaging in a status fight with the rapidly growing

The bit that doesn't show, certainly not to your users, is the defensive moves you are taking behind the scenes. Lets start with the report to Fix My Street, after reading on that some posters had been put up, you signed up yet another sockpuppet account on there, using threatening wording and advising it had been reported to Fix My Street, and would be reported to the other authorities if your demands were not immediately met. I might add that not only did you only use the pictures from in your report, but you probably never saw such posters in real life.

Obviously, the adults in this exchange acted on their own morals, and not the demands of your childishness, and then self reported themselves to the authorities you threatened to contact. Needless to say, they were thanked for their honesty and openness (not something a sockpuppet can ever receive) and were given guidance on the authorities view on such matters.

Obviously with their guidance in mind, expect to see more poster popping up around soon. Then you can go and open yet another account and report them again.

The more I think about it, the more I realise you have NEVER spoken out as yourself in public. "Admin" is the only way people know you. And for someone who apparently cares so much about their community (and not just the cash flow from the ad's you slap all over the place, the Gold users who get sticky topics, which quite frankly make the front page look like it never updates, which lets be, with just  fair a few posts a week it probably doesn't change that much) I find it strange that you have no interest in people even knowing your name, let alone what you look like or even if you still live here.

Obviously anyone who uses your computer repair service will have unknowingly met you, but it makes me wonder, if they mentioned the forum, would you even tell them it was yours? I'm gonna guess not on that one.

Anyway, seeing as you have once again attacked me and then removed my chance to reply on your forum , I would like to take this opportunity to ask you to just delete my account once and for all, and if possible remove all my content from the site. Which of course I don't expect you to do, but I am just putting it out there as my wishes.

To reply to "Chippy" I would say quite simply, YES I do know the owner of Sugar Mountain, (as do you Steve). I get on very well with her, and respect the amount of commitment and dedication she shows the local community (unlike you Steve, just keep the revenue coming) The 3 star rating allows the shop to continue trading, and has raised no significant concerned with the local authorities (much to your dismay Chippy, opps sorry, Steve) The fact that a new user (or sockpuppet) would dig through 3 years of posts on your forum, which I realise is only about 2 pages with the traffic and activity you get these days) just to find a post which speaks negatively about a person who is supporting , just to make a single swipe at them is really quite strange. Especially given that all new accounts must currently send YOU the content of their post before becoming active and it appearing. That in itself would suggest some chickenshit, underhand, spineless sockpuppet behaviour.

But of course as the trusted Admin of the forum you would never allow that, right. After all they have agreed to the rules already.

By registering on this discussion system you agree that you will not post any material which is knowingly false, inaccurate, abusive, hateful, harassing, sexually orientated, threatening or invasive of a person's privacy, or any other material which may violate any applicable laws.
By continuing with the sign up process you agree to the above rules and any others that the Administrator specifies.

I must say, big fan of the bold print which basically says, if I don't agree with what you say, I will mess with your posts and accounts. Change your password, block your account or anything else which doesn't involve actually being a grown up, adult, human being about the matter.

All in all Steve, it is sad to see you abuse your administrator privileges like this, just for your own entertainment, and financial gain. SE23 is a great area, full of wonderful people. With different opinions and views. All of which makes it all the more an amazing place to live. You had an opportunity to help it thrive, but instead you have captivated an audience and left them wanting more. The site traffic is clearly down, the interest in the forum is fading away, so no wonder you feel threatened by a new forum which people are flocking to. But react like the business man you are. Not threatening people, trying to stamp on them, and demanding your name and website not be mentioned.

I would love to say I wish you the best, but that would just be a lie. I would like to see the back of you and your underhanded ways. If you REALLY want to engage with the area, use your own name, from one account and speak up openly and honestly. Rather than this childish puppet show. Stop attacking people without a face.

That's about all I have to say on the matter now.

Good day!


  1. Very interesting coverage of affairs, Michael. It's all a bit sad, really isn't it? Although unwittingly, this man is helping promote so I suppose it's not all bad news :-)

    1. Very strange behaviour indeed. But hey ho, the world would be boring if filled with just level headed sane people eh!

  2. Completely agree with everything you have said Michael and thank you for the support on the post from "Chippy" trying to put down my shop as I too am not able to post to explain or defend myself! The reasons for my shop having a 3 star rating has nothing to do with hygiene but to do with safety issues due to me having a lot of extra stuff in my shop that day (11 Dec 2014) as I was creating a free Santa's Grotto that evening for the local kids at Twist Studios, which a lot of local kids benefited from :-)

    Sugar Mountain

    1. My pleasure Pauline, apparently Chippy doesn't approve of supporting friends, yet ironically took sides, just the other side.

    2. Thanks Michael, my thoughts are if you are involved in our community you should work with others that are too to make it the best we can for everyone, not try and divide the community like one person (Chippy) is trying to do for their own personal benefit & not for our community as a whole :-)

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  4. Sorry to see that he's still up to his old tricks. As someone who tried to set up a Forest Hill forum/website a few years back, I was also subject to this charmer's abuse. Good work on the rival site, I will check that out.

    1. Many thanks for reading and replying to this blog entry. So far all is looking well on other than a few underhanded moves which I won't go into on here.
      Hope you find your way onto the new forum, and please say hi :)

  5. Will do. I've also tweeted a link to the site. All the best with it!